![]() I went back to the site at 5AM and, with a lot of effort, took it out. I was working on a building site at the time, and I spotted an iron door which was perfect for them. There was plenty of everything, and it was the opposite in Spain. Back then, France was extremely rich and you could get anything you wanted. After that incident, they called to ask me if I could get them a reinforced door. On one occasion, the extreme right burned down a small printing press, put together by some young people. Tell me about one of those moments of disproportionate luck. If any of the things I began to do had ended up going wrong, I would probably have stopped doing them. You have to bite when you can and act wisely. I’ve spent time in 10 different Spanish prisons. It helped me lose that false respect very quickly, but smartly. We must not be afraid of disrespecting those who don’t deserve our respect. We must put everything we’ve learned into practice. The only revolution we have carried out is being permanently disgusted. We’ve been talking and talking for 60 years now. We have reached a point where everyone knows a lot. If you do something wrong, you pay for it. Others, though, are able to do a lot with very little.Ī sense of fear seems to reign when it comes to taking action. Some people get what they want and never do anything with it. In this world, you must fight for every single thing you want – show that you are capable. What a great idea it is to expect the Church or some idiot politician to fix your problems. We often lack the strength or courage to take small steps and yet complain about being too limited to take bigger ones.Įveryone must solve their own problems and nobody should expect anything from anyone. It’s funny, because we don't have absolute freedom. That’s because when we talk about politics we refer to something we are passionate about, and passion is all about violence. But there is always some implicit violence in politics. It seems that the word “violence” is banned in a democratic system. These days, we must be intelligent above all else. When the time comes, everyone will act as they see fit. We don’t need anyone to lecture us on what we must or mustn't do. We’re very good friends and I’m very fond of him, but I’m fed up with all his "armed struggle” nonsense. I used to spent a lot of time with Jean-Marc Rouillan, who was responsible for the French revolutionary group Direct Action. It is dangerous to boil everything down to details like having a credit card. It’s my wife who manages everything for me. Like you need to have a bank account or a credit card to be able to pay the electricity bill. You say we must rebel, but we are constrained in many ways. I wish France, Spain, Navarra or the Basque Country were more revolutionary. But at the same time, I love this country – as I love Spain or Navarra. They’ve been reactionary they have mistreated their colonies and still commit atrocities. How do you see France, the country you live in now?įrance has always behaved badly. In Spain,there's a saying It goes something like, "all poor people are generous,” but poor people have nothing to give. You should be generous, but there's no need to give it all away. Everyone should open their hearts and open their homes and avoid acting like an idiot. Sentences and discourses are for priests and politicians. To me, we all are what we do. You're not a dogmatic anarchist either, are you? I'm not a believer, but it's like there's someone behind it. I’m getting the unexpected at the age of 83. The only thing I can say is that I’ve been very lucky in my life. We can be good administrators, but that’s it. I feel so fucking rich! There's a reason we come naked to this world and depart empty-handed, and it's because we don’t deserve anything. He was on my mind the other day, so I thought I'd pay him a visit. He currently lives in Paris, at the Louis Michel space – which he set up in 1997 as a centre for the promotion of culture and libertarianism.
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